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Why is Linus such a fucking faggot now? Everything he says is controversial and against everything he used to believe in. What went wrong?
>>2
Fuck you systemd eater, he still knows a rat when he sees one, and pottering et al are the sewage eating antithesis of linux as it is.
what distros do you guys use?
>>7
i use mint. im a noob so its rather ok for now, except that i constantly run into problems. i consider changing to arch in the near future.
install gentoo
>>2 Because Android is the biggest Linux distro around. World domination at last, just not UNIX.
He doesn't know how the free software ecosystem works, and doesn't care. He doesn't know about static compiles because Drepper forbade it. (GCC needs to die.) Linus only cares about the kernel, not about managing userspace programs. He only initiates them: He no longer maintains git, and hasn't touched Subsurface since it went Qt.
He still insists on not breaking userspace, which is nice, and about reliable maintenance of kernel componentes, which, following the Reiser debacle, seems wise.
>>13 I used to USE="gentoo", it is in many ways the best, but I spent more time re-compiling than getting any actual work done.
>>14
I have really been considering trying Gentoo. I see people talking about cutting size down of packages considerably, and improving performance considerably as well, are USE flags as effective as people say?
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>>17 it's the weblinks that trigger the filter. I'll quote you for convenience.
Effective at what?
Performance? See AHHHHHHHHHH. Sure, there's some effect, but nothing you'll notice without specifically benchmarking for it. There used to be a great site documenting the harm of certain ricing techniques at AHHHHHHHHHH, but it's dead now. If you're running something with such high performance requirements that switching --march actually matters, you'll know.
Not cluttering up your system with bullshit? Pretty damn good. Certain things like consolekit are useless to me and actively cause problems (e.g. cluttering [h]top output), and every other major-ish distro I tried shipped with no way to remove those things. That's why I use USE flags.
>>18
Thank you. That is very convenient.
Gentoo also doesn't use systemd, so it already has a leg up on most distros as openrc boots faster and isn't buttfuckingly retarded.
customizepkg is way better than USE flags. also, being able to just yaourt -Syua and be done updating everything in minutes instead of waiting hours for everything to compile is nice. but then I only ever used gentoo because I had some obscure hardware that wasn't supported on freebsd. actually, what I'd really like is a distribution like arch, but using the minix kernel instead of linux.
I remember customizepkg. It was neat if you just wanted to modify one thing, but as soon as you started playing with dependencies everything went to hell. USE flags are especially nice since the maintainers do a decent job of unifying them, so I don't have to hunt down whether this package requires me to --disable-foo or --without-foo or USE_FOO=no make or edit a custom makefile, etc. Anything more specific than that can easily be handled by epatch_user. Compiling is sometimes irritating, but it doesn't take hours unless you're doing something silly like compiling libreoffice or chromium with all flags turned on.
I'm not sure why you'd want MINIX though: it's notoriously academic - AST's desire to avoid cluttering it up with code that couldn't be used for teaching examples is partially what gave us Linux in the first place. Even GNU/HURD is more usable these days if you're running vanilla x86.
I eidnt realize thiw board wqs full of nerds......
Nerds, >>24-kun?
I think you mean experts.
This is theUNIX thread; you should expect discussions about UNIX and UNIX-related accessories.
If you are looking for nerds, try the anime thread.
How 'bout that mac huh?
UNIX certified
How much did you neck beards cry when you found out you don't use a UNIX machine
The only reason BSD and Linux are not UNIX-certified is because nobody could be bothered to pony up the money for the official certification. Functionally they are UNIX, which is what matters to developers and hackers.
That Mac is nice, too, but I would rather not run my server on it.
It is still vulnerable to the shellshock exploit.