Smart thread. (53)

1 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

Only smart people allowed to post here.
I can't post here, so this space is all yours.

2 Name: smart ma━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━n [Del]

thsnk y

3 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]


4 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

fite me nerd

5 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>4 Bah. No battle of the wits against the unarmed. Do you even lift?

6 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

`smart' is something stupid to say

baka baka

7 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

lol i be t u left books nerd

8 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>7 I throw a small 25kg UNIX manual at thee. If thou canst catch it at all, thou dost so with tine face.

9 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

lol w/e nerd i caught it waht u gona do bout it

10 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

lol, you caught a glimpse of th contents and now you're afraid of computers

11 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

w/e nerd at leas i can hak ur faecbook accnt

12 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>11 I challenge you to try.

13 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

i al redy did lol ihav ur passwerd

14 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>13 Post it here, then.

15 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

i dont hav 2 prove any thing 2 a nerd like u

16 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

fart on my dik

17 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>15 I'm not asking for proof. I'm asking for my password on Facebook, since I wasn't even aware that I had one.

19 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

Everyone has a password on Facebook, it's kinda like a mormon sect, you can be married to some mormon and not even know about it. That's Zuckerberg's ultimate goal, everybody on Facebook even against their will.
Yours is ilikechildren, by the way.

20 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>19 Thank you, kind stranger.

21 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

No ticks's allowed.

22 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

put a bunch of angry hornets in my ass

23 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

wow such a smart thread!

24 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

omg i haked my friends fb acount im such a nerd hackr xdd im so smart

25 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]


26 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

suck my dick nerd

27 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

ess my dee, smart person.

28 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

I hate the wørd “nerd”. Originally it meant students (back when education was still supported to out-do the evals of Communism) who went to uni to study rather than get away from their parents and laid (itself a recent trend that originated with the G.I. bill), thus “drunk” backwards.

(Aside: In PTerry's Diskworld books, “knurd” signifies a state of anti-drunkenness way beyond sober.)

These days it is a trademarked Austrian fashion label of international renown known for its eye-wear popular with hipsters. That despite nerdiness being an exclusively American phenomenon – elsewhere in the world, students who apply themselves are the norm, and dazzlers the exception.

I suspect that propaganda movies from the early 1960s are to blame, with their perennial propagation of “popularity”, defined as the ability to easily find marriage material among one's schoolmates without resorting to carnal intimacy. It is a testament to the brainwashing powers of TV that this caught on despite the obvious internal inconsistencies.

Who needs chemtrails when television is so much more effective?

29 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

Universities, as envisioned by humanists such as Humboldt, used to be places dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge. It was accepted that scientists were the elite of humanity, tirelessly working to change society, business, war, the human condition itself, indubitably for the better.

This is no longer the case.

Because of the stratification of society, it used to be that scientists came from the higher classes: the children of aristocrats and entrepreneurs. This was occasionally seen as a problem, and gifted children of the working classes were also supported, people such as Thomas Huxley. This idea that all the most enlightened spirits of humanity should be called upon to wrest the secrets of the universe from itself for the benefit of us all is embodied in nothing as much as the construction of Akademgorodok.

These days, science is subject to business, and scientists are no longer judged by the quality of their work, and the impact of same, but by the quantity of their publications. Whole faculties who by their nature don't benefit business are shut down.

It was Adolf Hitler, one who thought himself above the humanist education that his father had afforded him, who, in one of his more famous speeches, claimed that education rots his youth, that youth should excel insted in physical fitness. (Interesting as the man himself was worst of his class in physical education.) Under his leadership, scientists couldn't publish their knowledge freely. (Similar constraints existed elsewhere: In the Soviet Union, the construction of a much needed computer was sabotaged by the political leaders for fear that robots might cause unemployment; likewise, research into genetics was discouraged. And I am told that in America, scientists are not allowed to mention that the Earth is more than 6000 years old, nor that the sea temperature is rising exponentially.) Hitler also set up his own university where scientists were supposed to discover what he wanted to be true. (Unsurprisingly, the universe, final arbiter in all things scientific, disagreed with him, the, according to his autobiography, Second Coming.)

These days, careers in science are discouraged by making them prohibitively expensive to pursue, titles being awarded as costly decorations rather than in recognition of academic achievements. Instead, there is rising demand for highly skilled working class employees. Those that would still pursue academic distiction do so in pursuit of a management position.

Acadmics, then, are now those members of society who were unable to find employment in industry, or unskilled in the mysteries of business management. Instead of being the light of humanity, they are reduced to being the waste products of education, as the saying goes: Those who can't do, teach. And yet those are the very people who survived higher education; hardly the dregs of society, many of whom are forced to resort to crime to survive.

(Hitler's prison camps consistently failed to turn a profit, even after unemployment was declared a jailable offense to bolster the numbers of the imprisoned. I hear that these days, great advances have been made in that regard in other countries, such that crime is now fundamental to the economy.)

This systematic destruction of science as an institution, this undermining of humanist endeavours, can not be feasible. Anti-intellectualism will bring about a dark age of ignorance, where those whose love for truth is too strong to succumb to religious indoctrination will have to resort to live in cloisters - and that didn't work out too well for the rest of society the last times it happened.

31 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>30 I am sorry. What do you take umbrage at?

32 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

It was accepted that

33 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

I didn't buy this tshirt because it says fuck on it i bought this tshirt because it was on sale and i rally nesded a chepa shirt! fuck!

34 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>32 Well, it was. Certain age groups still treat scientists with great veneration, as if they are somehow more than human.

36 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>35 Name one counter-example.

37 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>36 Sure, name an age group.

38 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

42 or older.

39 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

It might have been "accepted" by some humans, and some humans treat them like that, but not "age groups"

40 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>39 How about the more vague term demographics?

41 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>39 Please clarify why this discussion is restricted to humans.

43 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>42 Then I will not take back what I said.

Also, fuck humans!

44 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

That's easy, then. Any scientist over 42 themselves who isn't a raving narcissist. They may treat their colleagues with respect, but veneration? Certainly not.

However, that example picks on some possible exaggeration of >>34. For something more in line with the spirit, rather than the letter of the post, I once had a coworker who was probably over 42. The man was employed in a technical field, yet never completed any kind of college education. He was paid far less than those around him, which made him quite irritable. He considered degrees "pieces of paper", and referred to researchers as "pencil pushers". I assume he would have said the same about scientists.

45 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>44 Excellent rebuttal.

There must have been a reason that pencil pushers with pieces of paper were paid more. Professors at universities would often complain how little they get paid, especially in comparison to researchers in the real world. Even then, considering that the education takes decades and the income is deferred accordingly, the sum total over the working life is typically less than for workers in other fields despite the higher monthly allowance.

The reason individuals chose to pursue timeless knowledge as a carreer, bearing personal sacrifice, seems to be the elevated social status associated with it; or maybe purely the satisfaction that understanding brings itself, at no tangible profit. Nevertheless, society, meaning politics, afforded, and continues to afford, such people, albeit to an increasingly decreasing degree. As such, as stated, people who remain active researchers who share their discoveries with the world become those unable or unwilling to find compensation elsewhere, even though such work is not what the average person would be able or willing to go through, let alone do themselves.

46 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

science is most used as buzzword ya'll suck

47 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

I feel like the word "technology" is a buzzword.

48 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

"buzzword" is the buzziest word because of its double z's.

49 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

yeah, interesting how talk of technology started
τεχνολογία, "treatment of grammar"

>1610s, "a discourse or treatise on an art or the arts"
>"study of mechanical and industrial arts" (Century Dictionary, 1902, gives examples of "spinning, metal-working, or brewing") is first recorded 1859
>High technology attested from 1964; short form high-tech is from 1972

Now a whack mass noun. ..."Technology is not found in unbounded extents, like air. But english "technology" is a mass noun. "Technologies" is the plural of some individual noun, like "a technology" or "some technology," though "a technology" still denotes picking an unit out of a group of identical units"... But that's taking it for granted.

50 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

I like the vagina thread more than this one.

51 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>49 I know what science means. It is both the process of accumulating knowledge about the universe, and the knowledge accumulated by this process. I know what engineering is. It is the practical application of that knowledge. I know what a technique is. It is a certain way to do things, not limited to engineering. I know what art is. It is breaking the known rules of established technique creatively, thus not only proving that things can be done differently and successfully, but also developing a new technique. Or merely exploring a new technique in novel ways, thus developing it further.

But I don't know what technology means. Is it the fruits of engineering? Is it a collection of techniques? Is it a tool set? Is it a synonym of engineering? Does it even mean anything?

52 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

Don't ask about "meaning." See how words are used, instead. This is unfallible

53 Name: キタ━━━━━━━━( ・∀・)━━━━━━━━!!!! [Del]

>>52 Exactly.
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (18 May 2012) [foldoc]:


 <jargon> {Marketroid} jargon for "{software}", "{hardware}",
"{protocol}" or something else too technical to name.
 The most flagrant abuse of this word has to be "{Windows NT}"
(New Technology) - {Microsoft}'s attempt to make the
incorporation of some ancient concepts into their OS sound
like real progress. The irony, and even the meaning, of this
seems to be utterly lost on Microsoft whose {Windows 2000}
start-up screen proclaims "Based on NT Technology", (meaning
yet another version of NT, including some {Windows 95}
features at last).

See also: {solution}.